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negotiator jonathan pershing. >> civil society groups are extremely frustrated here. president obama, in his first speech after elected, said that he didn't want our children to live in an america that is threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet. yesterday, a number of civil society groups held a news conference and they said -- greenpeace said that tod stern and got the pershing have come to doha with a goal of obstructing the process. he said that it was disrespectful of president obama to inflict on us to the bureau negative negotiators to act as if the commerce that he made after the election were never made. obama should pick up the phone and tell his delegates to follow his lead or alternatively return to washington. jonathan, are you calling president obama's wishes, and how you respond to thcivil sociy groups who say that the u.s. is the leader of stricter to any kind of negotiatied deal? >> all have no comment on the first part. on the second piece, the united states' role is engaging actively in the discussions. we are one of the significant triggers to the intellect
. second, refuse to negotiate with obama, seriously. in other words, essentially republicans have gotta walk away, it is up to obama to make a serious proposal. instead of dealing with a joke. they also need to tell secretary tax cheat geithner in the middle of this in the most direct way in proposal is dead on arrival and he can save time and energy next time by not submitting an obama plan like this to republicans. bottom line is this, it is not serious. they should have no interest, republicans in playing stupid games with the administration. third, republicans need to shine a bright light on the obama proposal to ensure the american people know how insane and ludicrous this is. fourth, republicans need to use the opportunity to pass their own agenda they need to show they are not obstructionists they themselves have a positive, forward-looking agenda they are proud of, eager to take to the country. republicans need to make the case morning, noon and night, that it is obama who seems absolutely determined, for political reasons, to take the country over the fiscal cliff. our first gu
attention. you are calling on u.s. climate negotiators to step down. why? >> when president obama made his election victory speech, he broke his silence on climate change, what it would do to america's children. he then subsequently said that he wants to be a global leader on climate change, but the position that has been taken by the united states in these talks is business as usual, has not reflected the urgency of what has just happened in the united states through hurricane sandy, the fact that there is massive drought in many parts of the country itself, and huge climate impacts happening in a world elsewhere. the bottom line is, the politics of the negotiation is out of touch with all the science says, and president obama and other political leaders need to recognize, nature does not negotiate. we have to change. sadly, these negotiators are not reflecting that urgency and the ambition of the kind of change we need to see. >> i want to turn for a moment to my questioning of jonathan pershing. he was part of a news conference yesterday, along with other climate negotiators from around
with himself any longer. the nicer gentler barak obama who did closed-door negotiations who was always greeted by members of congress with obstructionism that is gone with the majority of americans voting for him. he came out and said give me a proposal. if you want to limit tax deductions, tell me what it is you want to limit. if you want to reduce entitlements, tell me how we're going to do that. if we're going to raise taxes or cut spending, tell me how we're going to do this because i've got the american public on my side. >> jennifer: i totally agree with that. i hear he's not cutting enough in this proposal, but in the last campaign he was cutting too much, oh my god. shouldn't the republicans in congress be called out on that hypocrisy, at least by the main treatment media? >> one of the things that think they're going to be cognitive of, they don't have time to change their image with the american public. there is the argument that house and republicans were re-elected, but i think it's clear that the american public did not vote for dysfunction. they want the american government to fu
tim geithner. that is president obama's lead negotiator in the fiscal cliff talks. it's all happening tomorrow on fox news sunday. check your local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> rick: speak of the president, we could soon be learning who he wants to have serve in his administration in his second term. source telling fox news, a slate of nominations could be coming this month and that would likely include a replacement for the defense secretary, leon panetta, and if that does happen, it will come a little sooner than a lot of people had expected. the short list reportedly includes former republican senator chuck hagel, deputy defense secretary ashton carter, michelle floroni, a top official and democratic senator john kerry >> arthel: a reported murder-suicide rocking the nfl today. police say kansas city chiefs linebacker gentleman von belcher shot and killed his girlfriend this morning. he than drove to arrowhead stadium where he killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. elizabeth prann live from atlanta with more on this very sad story. elizabeth
is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania avenue. >> i'm not more optimistic or less optimistic. puthopeful but don't put me e nearnywhere near the optimistic category. tove got a long way to go and a likefew days to get it done. >> lindsey graham from south carolina have offered to break a revenueax increase pledge and ntise revenue as part of a deal but graham now is pulling back until the president offers ntitlement reform. a i've not seen one deal from country downouse that deal with medicare, medicaid and social security which are all going to fail and take this country down the road of grief. and until i hear something from the white house on that, i'm not going to say another thing on revenue. >> mr. obama will meet with his v vanquished republican rival, mitt romney. it's been several weeks, after all, since the election night when president obama vowed to ph.t with mitt romney. ga major garret, thank you
lack of business integrity." tomorrow, president obama will send his top negotiators to meet tith congressional leaders. they have only weeks now to head off a big tax increase for most americans. the income tax rates will jump automatically january 1. it will be such a shock to the system that it has been called the fiscal cliff. our coverage starts on the white house lawn tonight with major garrett. major. >> reporter: scott, the saesident said for the first time, there is a two-step process to averting the fiscal cliff. republicans must act now to prevent a tax increase for households earning less than $250,000. do that now, president obama said, and he and congress can work out the details of spending cuts later. ( applause ) before a crowd of supporters, the white house invited from the mid-atlantic region, president obama put congressional republicans on notice. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for us to work on what we all agreed to, which is lets keep middle class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american peopl
on the fiscal cliff. geithner is president obama's lead negotiator in the budget talks. he'll first meet with harry reid at 10:00 followed by john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then he'll meet with house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on where tax rate shoes go if the wealthiest americans. return to clinton era tax rates would have house holds playing between 36% to nearly 40%. the president met with a group of ceos wednesday. they offered support for resolving the fiscal cliff crisis with a proposal that includes higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. >> at this point both sides have acknowledged that there is going to be revenue concessions and there will be entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in the business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> interesting. bill ford jr. agrees with blankfein saying he's con
. the problem for the republicans is they have had their clocks cleaned in two years of negotiation, and obama, the difference between 1937 and the court packing plan, roosevelt was a god ringing 61 percent of the tote and president obama got 51 percent barely, an while romy was incompetent at campaigning. they show no imagination. if they did they can turn this debate over. >>neil: thank you, patrick who saw all of this covering on election night. if you missed it, i don't know what to tell you, you should be ashameed. how about adding more days off school? some districts are trying it and the taxpayers may not like the cost of it. i love to eat. i love hanging out with my friends. i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. super poligrip fr
of negotiating a tax cut, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spending problem in washington. that's not really talked about. there's a lot of focus on the other side, but th
of democrats on the hill felt that in the past president obama has negotiated with himself rather than forced the republicans to come forward with their own deal, and republicans have yet to come forward with a deal. martha: that's a fair point. >> what the president's staff said yesterday, was, you know the president has already had a trillion dollars in cuts made under his terms. he wants to see from the republicans if they are willing to do something significant in terms of those revenue increases. we had the broad outlines of a possible deal, because what speaker of the house john boehner said he wants in the neighborhood of 400 billion. obama is asking for 1.6 trillion. you can see somewhere in the middle as a possible negotiating or compromise point. >> we should remind everybody the president has been talking about entitlement reform for four years. "the washington post" reminded them this might ab good time to lead because you're the president. martha: it feels like there is a real opportunity here for some history-making leadership and we'll see if we get it. thank you so much. mary
the way they're actually negotiating. you know, i will remind you, during the obama care negotiations and back and forth between congress and the president, it was a pretty fascinating thing to air when the president sat down with congress and had his exchange with paul ryan over the intricacies of obama care. it was useful. this could be useful as well. >> i actually agree with will, l.z. i think it would be a real education for people. >> for what people? us. we're the ones that are into this kind of stuff. the american people, they're not. think about the number of people who still think president obama was not born in this country. think about the number of people who believe that president obama is not a christian despite the amount of information we tell them over and over again. they still hold on to their partisan values and thoughts. that's why i don't think this will be productive. because it doesn't really matter how much facts you give people. they're going to believe what they want to believe. >> i just saw the movie "lincoln." that gave me more faith in america. >> i saw
that forecast, lawrence. >>> a positive sign in the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken on the phone. the president also met yesterday with ceos of some of the nation's largest companies hoping to convince them of the need of higher tax rates on upper income americans. >> we are not insisting on higher rates out of spite or bickering but, rather, because we need to raise a certain amount of money. >> house majority leader eric cantor echoed of thoughts of his fellow republicans saying more needs to be done about spending. >>> the colorado movie theater where a gunman opened fire during the latest batman movie will finally reopen next month. aurora's mayor says the cineplex will open to the public on january 18. movie theater plans to run free movies for the first couple of days. you may recall 12 people were killed, 58 others injured, when holmes allegedly james holmes opened fire allegedly in july. >>> same-sex marriage is legal in washington signed into law last night by the governor. dozens of people got marriage licenses at the courth
of the policy and the delivery and not negotiating. hold on. here is what it is. president obama saying i will ignore all of your requests. they are all mine on the table. you supposed to come back, the republicans and be, bring something to the negotiating table. it's ridiculous. >> eric: this is a negotiating point. >> bob: i want to know the increase in the upper tax rate bothers you so much. >> dana: it's bad policy. >> it is political revenge. pays for 8.5 days for government spending. you don't get anything except for lower productivity of people you ask to create more jobs. that is why. >> he can final it in his base. that is why he is proposing more spending. >> brian: incredible. to see him campaign with tinker toys and angry birds makes us think it's another 4-1/2 years instead of rolling up the sleeves and get the deal done. he goes to pennsylvania -- >> andrea: a small business. which is so ironic. the same group of businesses that are hit hardest by the tax increase. >> eric: i don't know if we outlined the deal that geithner proposed. $1.6 trillion. $1.6 trillion in the tax
a closer look now at one of the key sticking points in those negotiations over the federal budget. president obama's insistence that any deal include higher tax rates for high-income earners. we asked wyatt andrews to tell us how that might affect small businesses. >> so we need a couple of boxes for these. >> reporter: kevin green owns two flower and gift shops in alexandria, virginia, and he says raising taxes on the wealthy won't just hurt him. it will hurt his workers and the economy. >> all you do is reduce the capital available for investment and employment. >> reporter: small business owners typically report business income on their personal taxes. in a good year, green's income will exceed $250,000, making him one of the taxpayers the president says should pay more. in his case, an estimated $8,000 more. what's the economic downside to asking eight more thousand dollars for you? >> i don't have $8,000 to spend on those employees or that inventory or the business that draws customers. >> reporter: by congressional estimates there are some 941,000 high-income small businesse
for the first time in days -- president obama and house speaker john boehner. it is raising new hopes for new negotiation -- they have been at a standstill since monday when the gop proposed raising revenues by closing tax loopholes, not by raising tax rates on the top earners as the president had demanded. this comes as a new poll suggests americans agree with the president. 40% want to that tax cuts expire for the wealthy. 32 percent say they should continue for everyone. more downsizing -- news from citigroup. they announce they are cutting 11,000 jobs worldwide. they're closing branches. a spokesperson says less than 1% of 3600 citibank employees in maryland will be laid off. one branch in the state will close in the glen burnie. a new annapolis fire department is getting over $200,000 in a grant from fino. congressmen -- fema. congressman judge sought -- john sarbanes said it will go to upgrading the fire station. some say fema is not that generous when it comes to aid for victims of superstore sandy. >> maryland woke up to this headline -- u.s. denies aid to more storm victims. this is
, ready to sit down and negotiate with the president. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: they say if the bush-era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt everyone. and they invited people here to make their point. >> reporter: max olson opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> you add their payrolls, plus an extra tax amount, then i may not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: president obama pressed his case tuesday, with ceos from some of the largest companies. >> i'm here to tell you, nobody wants to get it done more than me. >> reporter: the president wants to raise taxes on just about everyone in the room to balance the budget. >> we're not insisting on rates just
. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican propoise -- proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say if bush-era tax cuts are not extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >> max olson opened an shrpses company this year. and is concerned he won't be able to add hmmees-- employees. >> you add their payroll and extra tax amount. and i may not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: i'm here to tell -- >> i'm here to tell you nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: the president said he wants to raise tax rates on just about everyone in the room. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering.
to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> now, the revenues were put in. going to come from, guess who? the rich. . >> reporter: health republicans say if bush era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >> reporter: max olsen opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> you add their payroll, plus an extra tax amount. then i might not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: president obama pressed his case tuesday with ceos of some of the country's largest companies. >> and i'm here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: the president says he wants to raise tax rates on just about everyo
this kabuki dance now. obama put this proposal out there so that republicans would have a chance to negotiate with him. he started with this outrageous proposal and look at what we have been able to negotiate. $1.6 trillion in tax increases down to under a trillion dollars. something like that. but there is other thinking that the president simply is not serious -- but he that he wants to go over the cliff and force in 2013, early 2013, put forward after tax rates go up on everyone -- turn around and proposed tax propose tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less p year. and voting against tax cuts for the middle-class. it depends on where you said as to how you see these negotiations playing out right now. megyn: but the white house has maintained in private even to progressive groups, but it does not want to go out thecal cliff. if you believe that? >> it's hard to imagine that the president would want to send the economy into another recession. that would be a terrible start to his second term and it would cripple the rest of the spectrum. everything else that he would want to do. it would
's up to the republicans. >> let's talk about the negotiations themselves. president obama and the house speaker spoke for a short time yesterday. nobody knows exactly what they said. and president obama is going to talk to a family in virginia, sort of a deal to get -- why don't both sides go to camp david, lock themselves behind closed doors and come up with a deal? why a pr stunt, visiting voters when that's not going to get a deal done with republicans. >> i certainly would welcome that. i think most americans would. i think what the white house is doing -- and i think it's smart -- making sure that this conversation stays where it should be, with the middle class. the white house has been raising this point. they have this #my2k, explaining to republicans and the country, we can't afford for $2,000 more to hit our tax bill. it's important for the american people to stay engaged and the white house has to keep the american people engaged and this family will be speaking for a lot of people. it doesn't make any sense, even the polls show that the wealthy are willing to pay more taxes.
it for president obama because they want the negotiations to found. howard dean said this is the best deal progressive democrats are going to get. if the fiscal cliff and the deal and what happens if we go off of the cliff. it really is a dnplatform. higher taxs and defense spending and isn't that what their platform said. they want to go off of the fiscal cliff. then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. lookin
in your face rejection from republicans over the obama administration's opening negotiation on the fiscal cliff. we're going to take to steny hoyer about what this means for talks from here. and he's defending susan rice and his fellow republicans hammer away at her. former presidential candidate ambassador jon huntsman is going to join us to explain all this. and the best part about this, abby huntsman, his daughter, is going to be on the panel. kind of like their first joint appearance. we're saying ever. we have to fact check that. but we're making history this morning. plus russell simmons bringing art to kids in urban areas. why he's so passion about this cause. and this is a picture everyone on the planet is talking about. the cop who warmed the hears of everyone who's seen this photo, he's going to join us. that and much more coming up on "starting point." it's like 15 minutes away. it's friday. what could be better? >> that is a sharpie, not a pen. thought i'd correct you. >> 44 minutes past the hour. people on the west coast bracing for the threat of flooding and mudslides. meteo
commitment that obama made, then we could go at international negotiations, and develop an agreement. i think the chinese understand that ultimately building all these coal plants is going to hurt them more than us because they've got more people. they've got a lot of people along the coast lines. they have a lot of people living in very dry arid conditions that will just get drier. they have a lot of mouths to feed and they're drawing down their aquifers. i think if the u.s. were in a position to show some leadership to say we're going to reduce emissions, now china get off your butt and you reduce emission, then i think you could see a global deal. obviously if the richest country in the world, which is is the biggest cumulative polluter refuses to lead, you can hardly expect poorer countries too do so. >> eliot: it has not really accomplished anything but you're right. there is no way to anticipate success if we do not take the first step and say as wealthy as we are we cannot afford to do so. it's imperative that we do so. author of "language and intelligence." joe rome, you are a diverse
? >> it is interesting if you look at the negotiations that president obama offered this massive tax increase with no concessions and this sort of outrageous request on the debt limit which was a really aggressive first offer. and then the republican s countered with a moderate reasonable plan exactly modeled after a proposal by erskine bowles. so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because they have a bunch of different simpson-bowles plans. like in the bowles-simpson report, there are three different tax plans and then the thing that the republicans modeled after was something that bowles said in a hearing. >> it's interesting when you look at what these plans are laid
for the wealthiest americans. president obama said basically the same thing but added one more hard line to the negotiations. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to a debt ceiling vote and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation-- which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year-- i will not play that game. >> late todathe president spoke by telephone with house speaker john boehner. no specifics on what they said to each other, but it was their first conversation in a week. eventually the two sides will get down to bargaining over specifics, including entitlements. one idea may be to change the way the government measures inflation. that may sound like a small change, but, as darren gersh reports, it could have a big impact. >> reporter: if the price of oranges goes up, consumers will buy apples and other cheaper foods. we know that. economists call that switching "substitution," but that change in bevior doesn't show up in the official inflation rate. so most economists think the cur
. >> as these fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. i don't know how any of us can look our kids and grandkids in the
that the president is leaning heavily towards lew. the big tests, obviously, are these negotiations being led by geithner, and that begins on january 20th when president obama's reinaugurated or inaugurated for a second term, he steps down, he has to appoint someone else, and most people say it's lew's to lose, so to speak. [laughter] like i said, geithner's leading these negotiations, lew is a key component. and depending how they turn out, if they turn out anywhere near what the president wants dub and i'll tell you, he wants a lot. mostly tax increases, $1.6 trillion in tax increases, you know, double what he wanted during the campaign, he's calling for some budget cuts, but they're very unspecified, so most people don't believe they'll happen. if lew gets to preserve some of that in a deal with republicans, you know, he's golden. most people don't think they'll get all of that, but there's flies in the ointment we should point out. larry fink is often set to be on the periphery, major democratic supporter of president obama during his first term. he's said to be kind of like on a short li
the way obama started here at all. i mean, there were two ways to start the negotiations. one was did you ever see into guys like haggle over something and one guy says a dollar and the other guy says 1,000. and that's where they seem to have started. he could have started at 500 and then the republicans could have said maybe 100. but he started this thing, he put his foot forward like you know what, i'm willing to play this to the bitter end. this wasn't a thing that said let's get it done quickly. he sent geithner over. he used geithner's political capital which i think was a mistake for geithner. >> he's leaving. >> but it's like using -- >> going back to goldman. >> where he started. >> where he cut his teeth. >> like using a pitcher because you don't care about his arm at the end of the season. so you threw him out there and you send him over with -- and you also let the republicans characterize the plan. which from a pr standpoint i don't think was that smart. so i think they blew that one. but ultimately it strikes knee obama did not suggest, you know whark what, i want to get it d
israel opposed it. because, mrs. clinton has said a few times, they have to negotiate. and not use new york platform instead of negotiation. however, alex, they're not negotiating, and they're going to need the obama administration to push them into it. >> is this a game changer in the mideast? how does this affect things, this new u.n. status? >> i'm not sure it's a game changer. because the palestinians still don't have their own country, and their own borders, and their own security and so forth. >> but the fact that they're identified as a state now. i mean, we constantly talk about a two-state solution. >> right. >> living side by side in peace. the u.n. says granted they're nonvoting, they're observer, but they are a state. >> exactly. >> i mean is that, that whole number of votes that supported that. doesn't it make a huge statement? >> it makes a statement symbolically, because they're not really a state in practice, because they don't really control every inch of their territory for obvious reasons. but, it's -- it makes a difference for them, because they feel then they can n
cliff negotiations are looking gloomy with no meetings planned for today and many lawmakers already on their way home for a long weekend. yesterday's negotiations consisted on a phone call between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both are still sticking to their separate plans. the president's plan raises taxes on the top 2% to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue, while the gop wants to close tax loopholes to raise half as much. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> the white house says they are also concerned that republicans may use the debt ceiling, which will need to be raised early next year to get their way on tax and spending cuts. the pentagon is already planning major cuts in case there is no deal. the preliminary plan is to cut 500 billion dollars in jobs and programs. the pentagon's spokesman says those cuts could force the defense department
of automatic spending cuts and tax increases could take effect january 1st. democrats moved by president obama and congressional republicans signaled they are willing to compromise on changing tax rates and spending reductions but the negotiations are moving very, very slowly. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the president is sending his top two negotiators to talk with lawmakers today about possible spending cuts. he's also getting ready to take his fiscal cliff message on the road. he'll try to convince the american people the best way to avoid the fiscal cliff is to extend the bush era tax cuts for the middle class. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> reporter: president obama is putting pressure on congressional republicans and he's enlisting middle class americans in getting the gop to take action on taxes. >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: tomorrow he'll host a campaign style event where he calls on lawmakers to extend the tax rates on f
event in pennsylvania to tout his proposal in the fiscal cliff negotiations saying that the american people made their economic wishes clear on the election day. >> obama: this was a central questions in the election. maybe the central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. at the end of the day a clear majority of americans--democrats republicans, independents--they agreed with a balanced approach. >> eliot: republicans meanwhile openly deride the president's proposal saying they're the ones taking negotiations seriously. >> the proposal that was delivered here by secretary geithner the speaker and me yesterday was not a serious proposal. >> i mean, it's--it's--it's--it was not a serious proposal. i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions. >> we're not playing a game. we're being serious. >> eliot: bottom line. let's hope there is a different script being played out behind the scenes. joining me now for some serious wisdom is staff reporter for mother jones andy kroll. thank you for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure. >>
this early battle unfolds. if mr. obama can cement a bipartisan deal to his liking many believe his approach to the negotiations could serve as template for tackling major issues that could play out over the next four years. yet for many other democrats, especially those in the party's liberal wing, any sense he capitulated could signal he can be rolled by republicans. let's get into a fair and balanced debate. matt sclhapp worked for president george w. bush. and debbie dingell, vice-chair of al gore's campaign in michigan in 2000. debbie, let's start with you. john boehner, speaker of the house, came out the day after the election and said okay we'll put revenues on the table. we will raise taxes but want to do it by limiting deductions. we don't want to raise rates. no real response on that from the president's team. isn't that kind of an olive branch? >> look, i think that democrats and republicans at a senior level understand we can knot go over the fiscal cliff. i think there's a lot of positioning, a lot of posturing. quite frankly sunday talk shows may have even made me a little edgy
44 branches. we do pretty big news from citigroup. republican leaders calling on obama to sit down for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the republican offering. he claims that the republican offer was balanced, and because republicans cannot just sit there and negotiate with themselves. here's more from the top republican leaders a short time ago. >> i will be here and i will be available at any moment. so, the president and get serious about solving this problem. reporter: they asked the president sit down so we can stop wasteful spending in washington. on the democratic side, there is emphasis that congress should pass the middle-class tax cuts for people earning up to $250,000 per year
brown. we begin with negotiations to avert the so-called fiscal cliff both republicans and white house hold their lines and no formal talks yesterday. president obama said he wasn't ruling out some reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could form the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> rep
. >> reporter: meanwhile with the so-called fiscal cliff looming, president obama sends his chief negotiator, tim geithner, to capitol hill today for individual meetings with each member of the congressional leadership, including speaker boehner. wednesday, mr. obama brought back a campaign atmosphere, surrounding himself with what he called average middle class families to ramp-up pressure on republicans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> reporter: the president wants congress to extend the bush tax rates for those making less than $250,000, but let taxes go up for everyone else. he's taking that message on the road friday to pennsylvania. not to be outdone on the pr front, house republicans hosted a group of nervous business leaders who have signed on to a campaign called "fix the debt" who want spending cuts to supplement the tax hikes. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts to avert this crisis. >> reporter: and as the president gets set to change up
ahead, of course, live coverage of president obama's remarks on the fiscal cliff and the negotiations before the business roundtable. we'll bring that to you live in just a few minutes. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> with the internet streaming space, hey, there melissa, we're looking at netflix bouncing around based on comments from the chief content cipher but the stock took a bit of a hit when he said that netflix has to plans to cover the costs of the disney deal. nevertheless causing the stock to come off the best levels of the day. back to you, carl. >>> the president is about to speak in front of the business roundtable. good morning, john. >> good morning, carl. he's talking to the business roundtable. you can expect him to highli
and be serious about negotiating. >> president obama has an unbelievable opportunity to be a transformational president. that is to bring the country together uniquely and solve this debt problem in ways that other presidents haven't really had that opportunity. or he can dissolve into zero sum-game politics where he wins and other people lose. i've seen and atry beaut in president obama when i served with him in the state senate where he was able to rise above donkeys and elephants and transform some very controversial issues in a way that was powerful. and it's my hope that president obama rises to this opportunity , avoids this zero sum-game splash and instead leads the nation in ways that only one person can do. that is the president of the united states. house republicans are prepared to get to yes. house republicans are not prepared to get to foolish. and it is foolish to reject president obama's own self-described architecture of $3 -- or $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in new revenue. so we're prepared to work and we call on the white house to do the same thing. >> speaker boehner, p
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